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Chris Miller and Gita Wirjawan discuss the technological competition between the US and China, with a focus on the chip industry. The conversation highlights Europe's approach to tech, the impact of the US uniting its allies for military and technological containment of China, and the potential risks of China's response. Finally, they also touch on the importance of creating global stability and security in advancing chip technology as the backbone of modern society.

Professor Christopher Miller is an associate professor at the Fletcher School at Tufts University and a nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. He is the author the bestselling book, "Chip War: The Fight for the World’s Most Critical Technology” (2022) and serves on the Geopolitics Advisory Council at McKinsey &amp; Company.

Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur, educator, and Honorary Professor of Politics and International Relations at the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Nottingham. He is also a visiting scholar at The Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center (APARC) at Stanford University (2022—2024) and a fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. 

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